Well they said they had sources but they were anonymous which based on the left's track record means either they were completely made up or they were someone with no firsthand knowledge who made something up.
The alleged event occurred when Trump was visiting France and he was supposed to attend a memorial service at a US military cemetery where Americans who died in WWI are buried.
Supposedly Trump skipped the event because he said that soldiers who die are losers.
The only problem is that everyone who was actually there, all of whom went on record including John Bolton who hates Trump these days, say that nothing of the sort happened.
The weather wasn't good enough for the Marines to fly Trump in not because they couldn't have done it but because the criteria used when transporting the President, any President, are stricter than what the Marines would use in combat.
A motorcade was ruled out by the Secret Service because there were no highways to the cemetery and the President would be in a location that it would take too long for the Secret Service to get him out in the time required by the regulations.
Trump was very sad that he couldn't go.
Within 24 hours Democrats were running ads based on the Atlantic's lies indicating possible collusion; the Atlantic tipped Democrats so they could set up ad buys and produce an ad in advance.
Veterans and pretty much everyone who has worked with Trump, even those like John Bolton who don't like him, say that the allegations are nonsense.
Trump did diss John McCain but McCain was at the time leaking the Steele dossier to hurt Trump so it's nothing like Trump insulting one of we the people. In fact I can't recall any time that Trump took on regular folk.
One thing we do know is that when our Ambassador in Benghazi was under siege by Muslim terrorists Sleepy Joe was VP and no forces were sent to save the Ambassador or the few men protecting him.
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If they had sources and it's false then the sources were lying not the Atlantic. So again your title is wrong.
> The only problem is that everyone who was actually there, all of whom went on record including John Bolton who hates Trump these days, say that nothing of the sort happened.
Everyone? Is this your magical hyperbole or do you actually think it was everyone? Further Bolton didn't say it didn't happen. He said he didn't hear it. He literally said:
> "I didn't hear that. I'm not saying he didn't say them later in the day or another time, but I was there for that discussion."
Hardly a full-throated denial it happened.
Further many of the Atlantic report's details were confirmed by Fox News and others. Also the article covers multiple conversations at different times and locations.
> Trump was very sad that he couldn't go.
citation? you know other than Trump's word and those beholden to him?
> Within 24 hours Democrats were running ads based on the Atlantic's lies indicating possible collusion
yeah this is just baseless conspiracy. it takes like an hour to edit up an advert. the thing writes itself.
> Veterans and pretty much everyone who has worked with Trump
uhmm, false? do you have statistics here?
> even those like John Bolton who don't like him, say that the allegations are nonsense
again false.
> In fact I can't recall any time that Trump took on regular folk.
I don't know who counts as "regular folk" to you but Trump has insulted plenty of people in the media. He also, remember, wanted to block immigrants from "shithole countries" which certainly sounds like an insult at plenty of regular folk. The NYT has compiled a list of people/things he had insulted at the time. It's pretty comprehensive and at least one person on the list must be "regular".
I mean Trump already publicly insulted captured american soldiers (suggesting they aren't war heroes) when he said "I like people who weren't captured". So it's not like this is out of character for him.
Sorry but if the Atlantic didn't do due diligence and published anyway they were a party to the lie.
10 people who were there for the discussion have gone on record saying the Atlantic story is a lie
Bolton also said that if the incident had occurred he'd have put a whole chapter in his book about it. But the point is that the Atlantic story said that the comments occurred as part of the discussion about going to the cemetery. Bolton is saying that didn't happen. If the "witnesses" got such a fundamental fact wrong odds are they're lying.
The "confirmation" was the same anonymous sources telling Fox News which is not confirmation.
Your only source that all the people around him are lying are anonymous sources who Bolton says are at the very least wrong about the context of the comments.
The Democrats were given a heads up about the article
That you think people in the #FakeNews media who make 10 times what the average American does and who are in the 1% are "regular" people shows you're a leftist.
Now you're lying. That comment was directed at McCain not soldiers in general.
Basically you're all in for a lie being promulgated by anoymous sources who for some reason didn't think to mention this in the 2 years since it allegedly happened but spoke up just in time to cover up Pelosi's gaffe.
> Sorry but if the Atlantic didn't do due diligence and published anyway they were a party to the lie.
due diligence like what? of course all the people in Trump's orbit will deny it. Their jobs depend on it.
> But the point is that the Atlantic story said that the comments occurred as part of the discussion about going to the cemetery. Bolton is saying that didn't happen
Yeah there easily could've been multiple such discussions one of which Bolton was not party to.
> The "confirmation" was the same anonymous sources telling Fox News which is not confirmation.
Great so you agree the Atlantic truthfully reported what some source said.
> The Democrats were given a heads up about the article
You have zero evidence for this.
> That you think people in the #FakeNews media who make 10 times what the average American does and who are in the 1% are "regular" people shows you're a leftist.
Uhm, just so we're clear how much can you make and still be a regular person?
> Now you're lying. That comment was directed at McCain not soldiers in general.
Yeah he said it in a comment directed at McCain. The sad thing is that Trump didn't realize such a comment targets all PoWs. Or maybe he didn't care.
> anoymous sources who for some reason didn't think to mention this in the 2 years since it allegedly happened
Leaking information is risky and generally not to the advantage of the leaker. There's plenty of reasons it might now be less risky and more advantageous for them to leak. Maybe they only recently realized Trump has no core beliefs and will "hurt others to achieve his goals" and switched sides.
> spoke up just in time to cover up Pelosi's gaffe
not everything is a conspiracy dude. two things happening close to each other is not evidence of anything.
https://gellerreport.com/2020/09/biden-megadonor-owns-the-atlantic.html/
So wait anonymous sources are debunked by on the record sources including John Bolton whose job doesn't depend on Trump and you say we should believe the cowards who won't say who they are?
If you don't think that people on TV, the glitterati, aren't regular people in the context of this discussion you're clearly confused.
Obama said that we folk cling to our guns and our religion and you don't seem to have been bothered by that. I don't like what Trump said to McCain but it's not as bad as Biden telling Blacks they're not Black if they don't support him.
Further none of the vets I know are angry at Trump.
The story showed up now because they knew it would be crushed by facts but they wanted to have it be around the election.
Sure not everything is a conspiracy says the guy who thinks that Democrats suing to prevent checking signatures on ballots is perfectly innocent.
If the exact same actions played out but against Biden you'd be complaining about conspiracy
> Further none of the vets I know are angry at Trump.
Some great anecdotal evidence. How about an actual poll https://www.militarytimes.com/news/pentagon-congress/2020/08/31/as-trumps-popularity-slips-in-latest-military-times-poll-more-troops-say-theyll-vote-for-biden/
> If you don't think that people on TV, the glitterati, aren't regular people in the context of this discussion you're clearly confused.
Most journalists are not such people and they make relatively little and yet they are targeted for abuse by Trump just for doing their job.
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