What the transcript tells us

If you read the transcript of the conversation between Trump and Ukraine President Zelenskyy objectively it's obvious that Trump did nothing even remotely unethical. In fact it wasn't Trump who raised the issue of corruption.

The first mention of corruption is by the Ukraine president.

It was Zelenskyy who brought up the issue of corruption not Trump.

Next Zelensky went on to talk about how Europe isn't supporting Ukraine as much as the US is--one more example of how Trump is taking a tougher line against Russia than Obama did-- and how he'd like to buy more weapons from the US.



First thing to note before going on to Trump's response is that Zelenskyy isn't talking about the US giving Ukraine anything but about the US allowing Ukraine to buy weapons--Javelins are guided antitank missiles. Keep in mind that Obama refused to sell offensive weapons to Ukraine; another example of how Trump is much tougher on Russia than Obama was.

Trump responded by saying:



The first absolutely critical thing to note is that what Trump is asking about is for the Ukraine to help establish just who did hack the DNC emails. Crowdstrike is the private security company that the DNC hired to look into that event. The FBI never actually examined the computers themselves.

What's interesting is that Crowdstrike is owned by Ukrainians; people who could easily have a reason for trying to make Russia the bad guy since it's Russia that's invading the Ukraine.

What Trump is asking for is for Ukraine to help determine if the Russians did the hack by examining the computer which is now apparently in Ukraine. This could be great news for Hillary because if in fact it can be proven, by an unbiased source, that the Russians did hack the DNC servers it would shoot down those who've been saying it was an inside job and increase the credibility her claim that Russia tried to get her to lose.

While Democrats will declare that Trump is saying that in order to get the weapons the Ukraine must investigate the hack into the DNC emails that's not the case. How likely is it that the President knew off the top of his head what Javilens are or what the position of those in the know is about selling them to Ukraine?

Rather than say yes or no since he wasn't familiar with the details Trump simply moved on to what he was interested in; namely seeing if Russia had in fact hacked the DNC emails.

Hence even if Trump was proposing a quid pro quo, which the text doesn't support, it was for Ukraine to get at the truth which might have helped Hillary. Hardly something a sane Democrat would say is impeachment worthy unless of course they know they're lying about Russia being behind the hack.

But if the US Intel community is lying about the hack that's a much bigger issue than anything Trump is accused of.

Later Trump addresses the Ukraine prosecutor who was fired because of pressure from the US.






While it's possible that Trump was misinformed about the honesty of the prosecutor it's clear that he's not pressuring Zelenskyy or talking about any sort of retaliation if Zelenskyy doesn't do this.

Further if in fact Biden used his power as Vice President to support corruption in the Ukraine legal system by shutting down an investigation for personal reasons it would be the moral responsibility of Trump to clean up the mess so that foreign governments won't think that prosecuting anyone related to a major American politician would result in their country being punished. You'd think that Democrats would like this because it would make it easier for them to go after Trump's kids if they did something wrong overseas.

Only later does Hunter Biden, Joe Biden's son, come up.



This is the first time that Hunter Biden, Joe Biden's son, is mentioned. Trump is raising a valid point; if Biden did stop the investigation of his son that's a big deal and the American people, as well as the Ukraine people, deserve to know the truth.

After all what are the odds that the one and only corrupt foreign prosecutor that Joe Biden personally took out just happened to be investigating his son?

Given that Democrats have just spent 2 years investigating Trump for colluding with Russia it seems odd that they're upset that Trump wants to investigate if Biden colluded with Ukraine.

The entire Russian collusion story was launched based on a dossier paid for by Hillary but produced by a British citizen and the entire content of the dossier was from anonymous second and third hand sources in Russia. Hence the whole Mueller probe was based on the cooperation of foreign sources the precise thing that Trump is asking for. Anyone who says that Trump "betrayed" the US in this call has to, in order to be logically consistent, say that the FBI "betrayed" America by trusting unverified Russian sources that condemned Trump.

On the other hand Biden himself admits to coercing Ukraine to firing the prosecutor who was looking into his son which is clearly a misuse of power; that is unless we believe that it was just a coincidence that the one prosecutor that Biden targeted in 8 years was prosecuting his son we have clear evidence that Biden colluded with Ukraine.

Trump's request isn't based on hearsay and rumors but on the public statements of Joe Biden himself.

Imagine if "President" Hillary had asked Russia to look into charges that Trump had colluded with Russia. The same people who are attacking Trump over this would be applauding her for looking into potential corruption. Or how about 3 Democratic Senators demanding that Ukraine reopen investigations into people associated with Trump? That happened and no Democrats or #FakeNews operatives thought it was bothersome in the slightest.

Then President Zelenskyy thanked Trump for bringing up the Biden issue because Zelenskyy wants to end corruption in Ukraine.

What Zelenskyy is pointing out is that if Ukraine dropped an investigation that was targeting not just Hunter Biden but corrupt Ukrainians due to pressure from Joe Biden that was corrupt and he wants to stop that sort of thing.

This is one of the key things that the Democrats ignore; Joe Biden's actions corrupted the rule of law in Ukraine and the Ukrainians have a vested interest in repairing that.

Then Zelenskyy asks Trump for information on the former Ukrainian ambassador to the US who was apparently serving the previous president rather than Zelenskyy.

More evidence that both leaders were trying to clean up past actions by corrupt and dishonest actors.

A key takeaway is that the only possible quid pro quo mentioned was selling offensive weaponry to Ukraine but that was in relation to Ukraine helping find out the truth about who hacked Hillary's emails something that could benefit Hillary. Assuming the Democrats aren't lying about who hacked her such an investigation is something they would welcome. Trump didn't suggest any quid pro quo for the investigation into how Joe Biden corrupted Ukraine's legal system.

Further what Trump was doing wasn't asking Ukraine to help him get reelected but to see if Joe Biden had misused his power as Vice President to corrupt the legal process in Ukraine. If so Trump was basically saying that the US wants the Ukraine to return to the rule of law and not be afraid of investigating Americans, even if their fathers are important American politicians.

Can you imagine if the Democrats thought that Trump had interceded to protect his son against a Ukraine investigation that they would say that it would be wrong for a later Democrat President to ask the Ukraine to help investigate? Of course not. This is just one more example of the two-track legal system that Democrats want.

Democrats and the #FakeNews media are saying that Joe Biden can misuse the power of the US to protect his son from being investigated but Trump is committing a crime by asking the Ukraine to restore honesty to its legal system.

Democrats want to impeach Kavanaugh because of a sexual assault where the "victim" says she was never assaulted.

They also want to impeach Trump for doing what they themselves have done; Biden's interference in Ukraine to protect his son and the Democrat Senators demanding that Ukraine reopen investigations into associates of Trump.

This is nothing more than a grab for power by the Democrats; a way for them to overturn the results of an election that they didn't win.

It's proof that for many Democrats elections aren't valid unless they win.